Convert Bonvoy into Korean Air miles

Update (2.21.2022)

Korean Air has officially announced the discontinuation of the changes to the Korean Air SkyPass program, please check it out.

https://www.koreanair.com/kr/ko/footer/customer-support/notice/2303-newskypass

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Update (11.06.2022)

When converting Bonvoy points to Korean Air, there was an additional bonus of 5,000 miles for converting in increments of 60,000.

But it turns out that this feature is going away on December 1st.

If you were planning to transfer Bonvoy points to Korean Air, it looks like you'll have to wait until November.

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The deadline to change Korean Air Mileage Redemption is 5 months away.

The new formula will go into effect for tickets issued on April 1, 2023, with modest increases for economy and significant increases for business and first class on the Americas.

So if you've got some Korean Air miles lying around, it's probably a good idea to fill them up to the point where you can redeem them and get rid of them now.

Of course, with the Chase UR to Korean Air transfer option gone, it's not easy to earn a large number of Korean Air miles in a short amount of time.

However, there are a couple of options available, so I think you should be able to make up the shortfall in miles needed to book a business or first class ticket if you prepare now. (Of course, whether or not you have a seat is another matter.)

In today's post, I'll 1) explain the details of the Korean Air deductible change, and 2) summarize how you can make up for lost Korean Air miles.

1. Changes to Korean Air Mileage Redemption: April 1, 2023

December 13, 2019. Korean Air has announced that its mileage program, SkyPass, will be adding Announcing big changesI did.

There's quite a bit more, including the introduction of mileage bundling, adjustments to mileage earning rates, a change in elite tier segmentation and calculation to an annual requirement, and a change from region-based to distance-based mileage deductions. You can read more about this in the Cleanup from a 2019 postin the past.

Among other changes, we're introducing the Most importantly, change your mileage deduction.

The requirement was originally scheduled to be implemented on April 1, 2021, but due to the coronavirus pandemic, the implementation was postponed by two years. Therefore, it is unlikely that there will be any further postponements or changes.

So let's take a look at how exactly the deduction changes. 

Currently, redemptions are regional, so the entire U.S., including Hawaii, is lumped into one region, with 35,000 miles redemptions for economy, 62,500 miles for business, and 80,000 miles for first class one-way in peak season.

That means whether you're in LA on the west coast or NYC on the east, the mileage deduction is the same.

However, starting with tickets issued in April 2023, a distance-based system will be introduced, with a sliding scale from 1 to 10 zones for international flights based on one-way distance.

Mileage deduction tablefor example.

Based on travel to/from Incheon,

  • The western parts of LA, San Fran, Seattle, and Las Vegas are in the 8th quartile (under 5,000-6,500).
  • The central and eastern parts of New York, Dallas, Boston, Chicago, Atlanta, and DC would fall into Zone 9 (6,500-10,000).

Compared to today, on a one-way basis during peak periods

  • For Economy, it's a 5,000 mile increase in West and a 10,000 mile increase in Central/East.
  • For Business, the increase is 17,500 miles in the West and 27,500 miles in the Central/East.
  • And for First Class, there will be a 40,000 mile increase in West and 55,000 mile increase in Central/East.

All of the above mileages are based on a one-way ticket, so if you're talking about a round-trip ticket, you're in for a real treat.

For example, New York-Incheon business roundtrip is currently available for 125,000 miles off-peak, but will be 180,000 miles if booked after April next year.for the trip. That's a whopping 55,000 more miles.

In other words, you can fly roundtrip from New York to Incheon in first class for 160,000 miles today, but in April 2023, you can't even fly roundtrip business.

So if you're planning a trip to South Korea in the next year or so, 2023, it's a no-brainer to start saving up your miles now and book your tickets as soon as possible (even considering the hefty fuel surcharges).

Even taking the extra 50% during peak season is sometimes better than taking the increase after April 1, so I think you should keep that as an option.

3. Korean Air partner cards issued by US Bank 

So how can you start collecting Korean Air miles now?

First, there are several Korean Air cards issued by US Bank.

The $95 annual fee Skypass Visa Signature card is the best option, with 30,000 miles for a free home offer, and the occasional 40,000, 45,000, or even 50,000 mile home offer if you're lucky.

Also, some of our members who have this card have a 45,000 refer-a-friend link. If you know someone who collects miles, chances are they have this card, so it's a win-win situation.

4. Bonvoy cards 

Of the convertible points, Marriot's Bon Voyage is practically the only one that can be converted to Korean Air miles.in the file.

Whereas other hotel points either don't convert to airline miles at all, or if they do, the conversion rate is abysmal, Bonvoy points are redeemable at a rate of 1 mile for every 3 points.  And you get a bonus of 15,000 points (=5,000 miles) for every 60,000 units. Bonvoy Points 25,000 miles for $60,000, 120,000 is 50,000 miles. (Bonuses are not displayed correctly in the Bonvoy site conversion calculator, so be aware of that.)

Bonvoy cards are currently available in three personal cards from Chase (Boundless, Bold, and Bountiful), two personal cards from Amex (Brilliant and Bevy), and one business card from Amex.

For Chase personal cards, 

  • The annual fee is $95 for the first year, but the second year comes with nightly stays (up to 35,000 points) that can really bump up the annual fee. Boundless cardsin the list.
  • There's a Bold card with no annual fee, but it doesn't have a high sign-up bonus and no nightly stays.
  • And then there's the new Bountiful card, which has a $250 annual fee, but there's no automatic annual night award. You have to spend $15,000 in a calendar year to get a night award (which can be up to 50,000 points), so it's not a great option.

To summarize, The Boundless card is one of the better Chase cards in many waysin the future.

The good news is that as of this writing, the Boundless card promotion is ongoing, and as a welcome bonus, you can get a 100,000 points after 3 months of $3000 spendin the file.

With a spending requirement of $3,000 and 2 points per dollar if you're not in a bonus category, you'll earn at least 106,000 points after spending, including the welcome bonus.

Don't just hand it over, you need to make it to 120,000 and then transfer it to Korean Air to get 50,000 Korean Air miles. As I explained above, you need to transfer Bonvoy points in increments of 60,000 to get the extra 5,000 miles.

The best ever!Marriot Bonvoy Boundless (issued by Chase)
Welcome Bonus5 nights for $50 when you spend $5000 for 3 months.
Annual Free Night Award (up to 35,000 points hotel redemption) upon card renewal starting 1 year after card issuance
Bonvoy points can be converted to miles on most airlines at a 3:1 ratio
For calculating elite status Receive 15 Elite Night Credits each year. Plus an additional one for every $5,000 spent. Note that these Night Credits can't be used for actual stays. 
Be aware that there are a number of restrictions if you have other Bonvoy credit cards.
The annual fee is $95 for the first year.
Ball Home LinkApplication link

 

For Amex cards, 

  • For personal cards, the The newly renewed Brilliant cardfor example. The card has a $650 annual fee for the first year, but it comes with a $300 dining credit for $25 a month for a year. You'll get one 8.5 night card per year upon renewal, and the dining credit automatically comes with Bonvoy flat status, so it's not a bad option if you're a frequent Bonvoy stayer.
  • The Bevy card is a newer product that has a $250 annual fee for the first year, but it doesn't come with an automatic annual stay, and you have to spend $15,000 in a calendar year to earn a stay (which can be up to 50,000 points), so it's not a great option.
  • Finally, the Business cardsThis business card has an annual fee of $125 for the first year, but you get one 35,000 night card every year upon renewal, so the annual fee is easily covered.

Both of these cards are currently on promotion.

  • Brilliant card is 3 months $50,000 $150,000 Points
  • Bevy Card for $4,000 for 3 months and 12.5k points
  • The Business Card has a welcome bonus of $4,000 and 100,000 points for 3 months.

For the Brilliant card, you'll earn a minimum of 160,000 Bonvoy points after you've met your spending and earned the full welcome bonus. If you transfer to Korean Air as is, you'll get about 6.3k miles. If you fill up to 180,000 points, you'll get 7.5K Korean Air miles.

Marriot Bonvoy Cards
Bonvoy points are convertible to miles on most airlines at a 3:1 ratio
For more infoBrilliant Personal Card from Amex (185,000 points after 6 months of $6,000 spend + Bonvoy Flat status)
Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant® American Express® Card
For more infoBevy Personal Card from Amex (155,000 points after spending $5,000 in 6 months)
Marriott Bonvoy Bevy™ American Express® Card
For more infoAmex-issued business card (3 50,000-point night stays after spending $6,000 in 6 months)
Marriott Bonvoy Business® American Express® Card
Shortcuts Chase-issued Boundless Personal Card

 

There are a few things to keep in mind when applying for a Bonvoy card. 

This is because holding a particular card, even if the issuing card company is different, prevents you from applying for and being issued (and in some cases receiving bonuses) other cards.

For example, the Chase Boundless card has the following ineligibility reasons

  • First, if you currently have an Old-Marriott, New-Marriott Personal, or Marriott Bonvoy Bold card issued by Chase, or have received a sign-up bonus within the past 24 months, you will not be approved for the card (Marriott Bonvoy® Premier credit card, Marriott Bonvoy® Premier credit card, Marriott Bonvoy Boundless® credit card, Marriott Rewards® Premier Plus credit card, Marriott Bonvoy Bold® credit card).

In addition, if you meet any of the following three conditions, your card may be approved, but you will not receive the sign-up bonus (The new cardmember bonus is not available to you).

  • Currently hold or have held an old Amex-SPG Personal Card within the last 30 days (you currently have or had any of the following cards within the last 30 days: Marriott Bonvoy® American Express® Card, The Starwood Preferred Guest® Credit Card from American Express);
  • you applied and were approved for any of the following cards within the last 90 days: the old Amex-SPG Business Card (now the Amex Bonvoy Business Card), the old Amex-SPG Luxury Card (now the Amex Bonvoy Brilliant) Card, or the Amex Bevy Card: Marriott Bonvoy Business® American Express® Card, Starwood Preferred Guest® Business Credit Card from American Express, Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant® American Express® Card, Starwood Preferred Guest® American Express Luxury Card, Marriott Bonvoy Bevy™ American Express® Card.)
  • received a new cardmember bonus or upgrade bonus for any of the following cards within the last 24 months

That's why I've put together a checklist of questions you should ask before applying for a card (at your own risk, of course).

5. Last option - Hyatt points to Korean Air miles 

The last option is kind of a last resort.

The answer is simple: convert Hyatt points to Korean Air miles.

Hyatt site description5,000 points converts to 2,000 airline miles, and if you transfer 50,000 points, you'll get a 5,000-mile bonus, meaning that if you transfer 50,000 points to Korean Air, you'll get 25,000 miles.

However, as we just mentioned, this is really a last resort option and should be avoided at all costs.

40,000 Hyatt points are 16,000 Korean Air miles, so if you have 40,000 Hyatt points, you can get a $1,000 per night Park Hyatt New York (Just in case anyone is confused, you can't transfer Korean Air miles to Hyatt. It's only one-way, from Hyatt to Korean Air, not both ways).

You know how to earn Hyatt points, right?

1) First, you'll need a Hyatt Affiliate Card (Personal cardsand Business cards) can be earned through signup bonuses.

2) Sharp cardsOr, if you've earned enough UR points through the Chase Ink Business Card, you can transfer your UR points 1:1.

In this case, the calculation is 50,000 UR points = 50,000 Hyatt points = 2.5K Korean Air miles.

As I mentioned, it's never a good deal, but if you're really, really in a hurry, it might be worth it to transfer the UR to Korean Air when you need it rather than holding onto it.

Chase Ink Business Cash
* Earn UR 35,000 points worth $350 in cash after spending $3,000 in 3 months. Spend an additional $3,000 within the next 6 months ($6,000 total) to earn UR 40,000 points worth $400 in cash. For a total of UR 75,000 points.
* No annual fee card. The best choice for a business card with no annual fee.
* Earn 5 points per $1 spent on office supply store, internet, cable, and phone (up to $25,000 in a year)
* 2 points per $1 spent at gas stations and restaurants (up to $250,000 in a year)
You can apply on the partner sites linked on the English page

 

Let's wrap up today's post.

While it's never good news to see a mileage redemption increase, I have to say that the nearly three-year grace period is a relief compared to US airlines, which often implement mileage redemption increases without much warning.

If you're planning to book Korean Air Business or First Class tickets for filial piety trips, you'd better be prepared to use up your miles by March 2023.

It's a war for seats, as not only the US-based wizards but also those in Korea are planning to steal miles at this time, but if you don't have miles right now, it's recommended to place a waitlist for several days, as it can be difficult to get a seat.

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30 Comments. Leave new

  • Thanks for the update! I only have Asiana miles, but with the merger, I wonder if it will be similarly linked to the increase in Korean Air mileage deductions. I'll have to think about changing my hotel miles to use them before March next year.

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    • There's been talk for a while about what ratio Asiana miles will be merged into Korean Air miles, but it seems to have been quiet lately. It's probably going to be a 1:1 ratio at best, so it's probably a good idea to take advantage of it whenever you can.

      Reply
  • I have the old SPG Amex card and it automatically changed to the Marriott Bonvoy card, so I canceled it and kept it. ($99 annual fee.) In this case, if I apply for the Amex Brilliant card, will I get the welcome points?

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  • Thanks for the reminder. I understand that the deductions have been reduced for Korea-Japan, is this a good change for the few small ones?

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    • Short distances are favorable, long distances are unfavorable
      Also, Business, First Class will change unfavorably
      Going forward, I recommend redeeming Korean Air miles for short-haul + economy only

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    • Korea-Japan is a little better at 12,500 miles one-way on Ikon, but it's hard to call that an advantage since it's usually the best way to get a ticket for 7,500 Delta miles.

      Reply
  • The problem here is that I'm not seeing anything above Economy at all. I keep searching for Incheon L.A. and there's no First or Prestige at all from Feb 15th to May 15th. I booked Prestige as early as Feb 10th and am trying to change it, but it's impossible without dropping down to Economy. lol.

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    • I also had this problem... 3-4 months ago? I tried to book 3 people to Dallas Incheon Prestige in September, but it didn't work, so I postponed it to next March. I remember saying that there were about 3 seats released with miles. First is still not open, and I think the number of miles you need to use is going up, so I wonder if everyone is hurrying up and preparing for next year's reservation in advance.

      Reply
    • We recommend holding on to at least an ikon, and keeping Business and First Class on standby.

      I think it's because everyone in Korea is almost at war to get tickets.

      Reply
  • "50,000 UR points = 50,000 Hyatt points = 2.5K Korean Air miles"
    I agree, just give ur $500 Cb and live with that money...

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  • Hi! Thanks for the detailed post. I'm currently planning to use up my remaining Korean Air miles next year. Is it possible to convert MR to Bonvoy points and then convert Bonvoy points back to Korean Air miles?

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    • It's possible, but the stakes are high.

      Since 1 MR point = 1.5 Bonvoy points = 0.5 Korean Air miles, it's effectively halving the value.

      Reply
  • This was probably the last Korean Air First for me... Thanks for the info, I'll have to aim for ANA first class with Virgin miles. I'm sorry I didn't get my luggage gold tag this time because I came in late!

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    • I think the equipment and seats are much better in ANA, so I don't think you should feel too bad, but I'm crying too.

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  • I have some spending plans for the end of the year and was thinking about P2 applying for the Marriot Bonvoy Boundless card,
    I'm asking because I have a question.

    1. "The good news is that the Boundless card promotion is ongoing as of this writing, and as a welcome bonus, you'll receive 100,000 points after spending $3,000 in 3 months." But when I look at the table below, it says 3 free 5K nights, not 100,000 points. Is the table correct?

    2. P2 has never applied for and held a Marriott-related card in her name, but I have a Ritz-Carlton card and am registered as an AU, so I have a Ritz-Carlton card in P2's name. (I have had the Ritz-Carlton card for at least 2 years.) Will this be a problem for P2 to be approved for the card?

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    • 1. Yes. The offer has been updated in the meantime, and the table contents are correct.

      2. I don't think it will be a problem.

      Reply
  • Is the welcome bonus for opening a Boundless card - 100,000 points after 3 months of $3000 spend - now gone?

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    • Answer. The current offer is for 3 nights (you can stay in a room for up to 50,000 points per night).

      Offers change a couple times a year, so it's probably a good idea to create the offer you need when it becomes available.

      Reply
  • I don't know if this is a recent policy change.

    The 5,000 point bonus is
    American Airline AAdvantage, Delta Skyline, and Korean Air SKYPASS are not eligible.
    I'm at the point conversion screen, so I'll settle for 3:1.

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    • Yes. That's right, that changed as of December 1st of last year, and that's why I gave you the short, all-caps announcement.

      https://www.milemoa.com/bonvoy-korean-change/

      We'll update the body content as well.

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      • Hi~ So would Hyatt 2.5:1 be a better way to redeem Korean Air miles than Bonvoy 3:1? Thanks

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        • Bonvoy is basically 2 points per dollar spent on the card. Hyatt is 1 point per dollar, so even without the extra 5,000 mile bonus, I think Bonvoy is better.

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          • Oh! I see, so is it better to transfer points from Saft to hotel points and then to Korean Air miles with Bonvoy?! I'm confused...!
            Thank you so much for the information

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            • We don't recommend doing this unless you're in a real hurry. URs are basically transferred at a 1:1 ratio to airline miles, so if you transfer URs to Bonvoy and then transfer them to Korean Air, you're losing a third of their value.

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      • Hello~ So now Korean Air mileage conversion is 2.5:1 Hyatts better than 3:1 Bonvoy... ㅠㅠ

        Reply

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