2018/9/6
With the discontinuation of Chase's partnership with Korean Air, UR points will no longer transfer to Korean Air.
The only worthwhile conversion options now are United, British Airways, and Hyatt hotel points.
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Update (7/23/2017)
I've been seeing a lot of cases lately where a search is available on Delta's site for 22,500 miles one way, but not on Korean Air's site. Fortunately, a call to Korean Air has been known to result in search and ticketing, so if you can see it on Delta but not on Korean Air, it's worth a call to Korean Air.
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We're excited to announce the launch of Sandler had some big news for us at the end of the year. Search and ticket Skyteam Mileage tickets on Korean Air's online siteThe good news is that it's gone.
This enhancement is part of the Introduced the ability to book multi-destination itineraries online early last yearThis is a very positive change that dramatically improves the convenience of redeeming Korean Air miles.
The ability to search and book SkyTeam Miles tickets online is a great feature for Magicians everywhere, but I'd say it's especially helpful for Magicians in the U.S., as it allows you to book flights between the U.S. mainland and Hawaii, which was previously only available by phone or online chat (and quite cumbersome).
In today's post, we'll use the Details on how to fly from the mainland US to Hawaii on Delta using Korean Air miles.for you.
1. redeem Korean Air miles for a honey route: US Mainland (East) - Hawaii
First, I'd like to give you a quick background on why Korean Air miles are the best option for ticketing between the U.S. mainland and Hawaii. There have been a couple of important changes.
1) Change Korean Air's regional division
In September 2014, Korean Air updated its Skyteam ticketing charts and changed its regional divisions, with one of the most significant changes being that Hawaii, which had been lumped into the "Mexico, Hawaii, Central America" region, was consolidated into North America.
This resulted in the loss of a honey route from Hawaii to Central America for 30,000 miles roundtrip, but a new honey route from the US mainland to Hawaii. As detailed in a previous post, the I could fly from the mainland US to Hawaii and back for 25,000 miles.
Neat, clear, and organized by @julpurgeThere is no airline that can do a roundtrip US mainland - Hawaii for 25,000 miles as you did.
Sure, if you live in the West, you can use BA miles to fly Alaska or AA nonstop for 12,500 miles each way, but that's literally only for nonstop flights in the West, so it's not a deal for people in the central or eastern US.
2) Delta Air Lines Mileage Seating Situation is a Tricky Thing These Days
As you can see, 25,000 Korean Air miles roundtrip from the US East Coast to Hawaii is a very good deal, but not as good as I thought it would be.
The reason is that Delta, Korean Air's North American Skyteam partner, hasn't released many mileage seats. As you may know, Korean Air doesn't fly directly on the US mainland-Hawaii route, so Skyteam ticketing requires you to fly on a Delta Air Lines flight. However, Delta mileage seats have been hard to come by for the past few years, to the point where Delta miles are almost worthless.
But I've been hearing a lot of talk lately about how Delta has changed. Maybe it's because AA, Delta's main competitor, is such a douchebag, but there are actually quite a few mileage seats available.
The screen below is a search for New York JFK - Honolulu nonstop, 4 people. As you can see, there are quite a few dates in mid-March with seats available for as low as 22,500 miles.
If you're okay with one change in West LA or elsewhere, there are even more days where 4-digits are possible. As you can see below, almost any day is possible.
Some of you may be wondering, "Why is the lowest fare in that image 22,500 miles one-way when you said 25,000 miles roundtrip?" I'll explain more later, but that mileage deduction is for flying Delta with Delta miles.
If you book a Delta flight with Korean Air miles, you can book a 22,500 mile one-way flight for 25,000 miles roundtrip. When the most basic concept of ticketing training - the difference between an operating carrier vs. a ticketing carrier - becomes clearin the following example.
Okay, that was a long introduction, now let's get down to the nitty gritty of how to search for seats.
2. Start your seat search on the Delta site.
We recommend checking for Delta Miles seats on the Delta site first.
"Why do I have to search on Delta when the whole point of this update is to be able to search and ticket on Korean Air's site?" you may ask.
This is because the Korean Air site requires you to date each day to see when seats are available, whereas the Delta site allows you to search in five-week increments.
How to search for seats on the Delta siteWe've explained this once before, and we'll do it again, assuming a family of four is traveling from New York to Hawaii in late August. (June and July are already booked up because they're so busy ;))
1) Go to Delta's main site and type in One-way, and then select your origin, destination, departure date, flexible days, use miles, 4 people, and then hit Find Flights.
2) The week of August 22 has some seats available, if you don't see any, you can select 5 weeks to broaden your search.
3) One thing to note here is that sometimes when searching on Delta's site, Alaska flights (Delta's US partner) are also listed. Since Korean Air and Alaska are partners, you can use Korean Air miles to fly on Alaska flights, but it's my understanding that you can't mix Delta and Alaska flights when using Korean Air miles.
That's why we recommend checking the Delta Only box on the search screen.
4) Now, let's press the date August 22nd. We see that there are several flights available. Out of these multiple flights, only the one that costs 22,500 miles can be booked with Korean Air milesfor a flight. Flights with 37,500 miles, 32,500 miles, etc. are not ticketable, so it's important to keep that in mind when searching.
Or, if you're on your way to Hawaii and want to make a stopover in the Midwest or West along the way, you can use the If you search separately for an itinerary within the continental U.S., for example, New York to Los Angeles, only seats that search for 12,500 miles each way can be booked with Korean Air miles.in the file. Keep this in mind.
5) I did a search for outbound, so why not do a search for return? I did the same thing, checked Delta only, and searched about a week out, and found availability on August 28, 29, and 30.
6) I hit August 28 and there are a few possible options for 22,500 miles.
3. Now let's move on to the Korean Air site.
How to search for mileage seats on Korean Air's siteWe've written about this before, and the method is the same.
1) On the Korean Air site, check Redeem Miles on the main screen.
2) You will then be prompted to sign in, please do so.
3) After signing in, select SkyTeam Bonus on the next screen.
4) On the changed screen, you'll need to enter your departure airport, arrival airport, and date. On Delta's site, you can enter NYC, but on Korean Air's site you'll need to specify JFK, LGA, EWR, etc.. Please note this.
5) Search for 4 passengers, and you'll see several possible combinations, which is great.
6) I combine my desired itinerary and hit Calculate Fare, and I get a roundtrip price of 100,000 miles + taxes for 4 people, which is $44.80. If I had used Delta miles, I would have needed 180,000 miles, but with Korean Air miles, I only needed 100,000 miles. Great.
7) Just to be safe, I changed the date to August 27, when Delta only has high mileage redemptions, and when I pressed it, I immediately got an error message.
4. some advantages + caveats
1) When you book a Delta ticket with Korean Air Miles, the rules for changes and cancellations will follow Korean Air's rules. Korean Air tends to have free ticket changes and cancellations, right? This is also the case for Skyteam tickets, so until July 2017, changes and cancellations are free, and from August, changes cost 30,000 won and cancellations cost 3,000 miles. For more information, visit Korean Air's siteDo it.
2) Another advantage is that That you can add a free stopover to your round-trip itineraryFor example, for the New York-Hawaii itinerary I gave you, if seats were available, you could fly New York-LA (stopover)-Hawaii-New York and so on. Solving a trip to the West + a trip to Hawaii at the same timeYou can also
3) As I mentioned earlier, you have to have a Delta mileage seat to redeem Korean Air miles, so if Delta starts blocking mileage seats, this could be a sticking point again. But in that case, I think you can just use Korean Air miles to go to Korea (and they have 10 years of mileage validity), so you can keep collecting them without too much worry.
4) On the downside, when booking Skyteam with Korean Air miles, you'll need to use Round-trip ticketing onlyis that it's a one-way ticket. This is a bit of a bummer considering that Asiana Mileage Stars tickets are one-way.
Let's wrap up today's post.
I've heard it gets tighter and tighter to collect and redeem miles, but it doesn't always seem to get worse. I hope everyone can take advantage of these deals while they're still available 🙂 .
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Oh! Am I number one?!!!
I've been trying to get them to use this honey route, but they say it's hard to use because their family schedule is only in June... They use it to pay for their UAL account balance and it hurts so much... Even if I give them the honey information, they can't get it all....
Yes. That's why I try to avoid "evangelizing" whenever possible 🙂 .
I got second place and I just got a sari, so I can go to Hawaii.
Thank you for the quick updates and good information as always
I traveled with this last year...to Hawaii^^.
But there weren't many seats available at the time, so there were no direct flights.
If there is a direct flight, I would love to go again this year with Agadesh^^.
It's been a year since I entered this world...and with my hard-earned miles and points, I'm planning a trip to Hawaii for the whole family. Family of 4 flying out of JFK...just what I need. Thank you.
Yes. When you have kids, you want a direct flight.
I've been reading Mama's Hawaii a lot lately and this is a great post~ thank you so much.
I have one question: You said that Korean Air miles are valid for 10 years, but if I ticket and then cancel, are they still valid for 10 years?
I'm also looking at UA flights to Singapore Airlines because I want to book on Korean Air, but the dates are a little different from what I want, so I can book on Korean Air and then cancel when UA has the dates I want, but I'm wondering what happens to my miles if I do that.
Thank you so much for the great information.
Answer. It is my understanding that Korean Air miles are valid for 10 years from the date of earning. I don't think they extend the entire time with activity like US airlines do.
Thank you so much Milemoa - I can now ticket with confidence!
It's been a year since I entered this world...and with my hard-earned miles and points, I'm planning a trip to Hawaii for the whole family. Family of 4 flying out of JFK...just what I need. Thank you.
My wife and I also traveled to Hawaii like this last April. It's definitely a long way from the East Coast, but I loved Hawaii... especially Kauai. I'm looking forward to doing it again this year. Next time I go, I'll have to do a stopover in Elei~!
Thanks for the tip!
I see a seat on Delta that costs 22500.
Why can't I see it on Korean Air's site?
Me neither.
I also got the airport right.
I'm getting a message that Korean Air doesn't search.
Is this true even if the entire itinerary is Delta? If there are Alaska flights in the mix, they won't show up on Korean Air's site. We've updated the text to reflect this.
Yesterday, I don't know why
Today, I'm searching in Danang.
Yesterday, Delta searched for
I put in a March event and a May event (same root).
I was only able to find the May schedule in Danang.
It's March today
Thank you.
I searched the old threads just in case, but I thought it might not work!
Is it possible to do Incheon-Hawaii-New York-Incheon?
Otherwise, is it best to fly my parents from Korea to Incheon-New York roundtrip, then New York-Hawaii?
Thank you.
Yes, it is possible. For example, it's possible to fly Incheon-Hawaii on Korean Air, and Hawaii-New York on Delta, and New York-Incheon on Korean Air, all for 80,000 miles in economy (see image link below). I'll explain more in my next post.
https://www.milemoa.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ICN-HNL-JFK-ICN.jpg
I did a westbound-stopover-eastbound trip last year with 25,000 Korean Air miles after perusing the board.
When I look at West to East tickets, are the seats that show up for 22500 Delta miles still bookable?
I thought I could only book seats that showed up for 12500 Delta miles.
I only booked on the days that those seats were available.
Is the seat that shows up for 22500 miles only an option when booking East to Hawaii?
Is it correct that a West to East stopover can only book seats that show up for 12500 Delta miles?
Thank you !
For Delta, 12,500 miles is the lowest mileage redemption for domestic US, and 22,500 miles is the lowest redemption for Hawaii, so domestic US itineraries like West and East will only be able to book seats that search for 12,500 miles each way.
Oh, so in the same vein, going to Mexico, the Virgin Islands, and Puerto Rico is 25K roundtrip?
Living in the west, I'm craving the Caribbean lol.
You're very resilient 🙂 It's possible, and we'll cover it in detail in our next post.
Thank you. Looks like I'll be traveling to Hawaii this year on the cheap (?).
So many LAX-HNL seats in December! Too bad it's not one-way. It's a shame for those who want to visit two islands~.
I'm going to the Big Island, and KOA-lax is almost super dead in the time zone, so I ended up flying hnl-koa one way on delta and AA, and the return on cash.
Since you can open-jaw once, itineraries like LAX-LIH and HNL-LAX are possible for 25,000 miles. For an inter-island ticket, you only need to buy one segment, LIH-HNL.
Mamo's reply to I just saw it now, very nice.
Thanks for the great post! I really appreciate the detailed explanation of the areas I've been meaning to go to.
One question, you said that stopover is possible, but how do you put it in? I'm not sure if it's possible over the internet like above or if I have to call you.
You can do this on the internet. You can do this by searching for multi-city itineraries, which we'll cover in more detail in the next post.
I booked LAX-HNL for 4 people for 100,000 miles from November 15th to 23rd for 4 people yesterday. I didn't know it was hot~ I didn't know. I researched and booked before reading the article... It's a good deal.
There were plenty of seats available, and I was able to book a round-trip to Nalim Hawaii with points from Sarikad.
Doesn't that mean I've booked my vacation for this summer as of this very post?
Thank you for making our 7th wedding anniversary so exciting.
Oh~ Thank you so much for the information. But in my case, it says that the date is available in Delta, but not in Dan Gong. ㅠㅠ.
Delta shows the entire itinerary for 22500 miles, but Korean Air has to subtract one airport to get it, ouch.
It seems that the itinerary is valid for up to 2 connections per way, but more than that would violate ticketing rules.
Yes, I think so.
Thank you for your comment. Mamo.
Oh... Thank you so much, I can't believe how my spouse, who has been a taker, managed to read through this and get a ticket, it was a real eye opener!!!
Oh~ This article is great. I'm in a situation where I need to transfer some URPs, and I'm trying to decide whether to transfer them to UA or KAL. If Korean Air gets more mileage value, I may transfer more to Korean Air.
This is the right recap + tip at the right time, thank you.
Mamo, thank you for always making things so easy and understandable!
If I'd known, I would have used Danforth miles to go to Hawaii this summer.
I booked it with BA miles, but the return flight from Hawaii was one stop, so it cost 40,000 miles for 2 people -_- (I forgot that nonstop is 25K), so it cost 65,000 for 2 people roundtrip instead of 50,000.
Should I cancel my BA ticket and rebook my ticket to Danang (I have a ticket)...
But since DanGong miles are more you(?), I think it's better to pay a little more and go for BA miles.
Korean Air only allows round-trip tickets. BA miles don't have much in the way of change fees, so it's probably worth keeping an eye out for nonstop seats on the return flight and changing if you find them.
Thank you for your comment ^_^
Yeah, so I'm still coming back every day to see if non-stop comes out, but I'm not knitting at all.
I forgot that it's 12.5k instead of non-stop, so I booked it in a hurry and then realized it was 20,000 miles one way... I'm so confused... ㅠㅠ
I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed that non-stop pops up before I go.
But I'm consoling myself that it's okay because I booked it for 12.5k -_-
Mamo, thank you always~!
When I search for Monterey (MRY) airport on the Korean Air site, it doesn't show up. Why?
Maybe this isn't the right place to post this question.
Does this mean I have to have all 100,000 in one person's account?
If I have 20k and my wife has 80k, can't we do that?
They say I don't have enough miles?
Yes. Family combining is not possible for SkyTeam tickets. You'll have to wait until you've accumulated another 5,000 miles before you can issue one ticket, and then issue 3 tickets from your wife's account.
The family trip I had in mind was perfect for
It's August... How does Mamo know???
Thank you so much.
All that's left is the hotel.
Thanks for the info, so is business class roundtrip for 45k? How many miles should I look for on Delta? Even from NYC it's over 11 hours nonstop, so I'm thinking biz flat would be worth it for domestic.
Yes. That's what I know. On the Delta site, you should be able to find a ticket for 40,000 one way.
I've been reading your comments and it looks like you're going to do a multi leg review. As an extension of this article, can you give an example of other islands in Hawaii? I think many people here are planning to go to Hawaii this summer, and I think many people want to get away from Honolulu for a long weekend. If multi leg is only available at LAX, I can't do it.
Delta serves all four Hawaiian islands, so of course you can visit other islands (see links below), but with the exception of HNL, they all fly out of LAX or SEA, so you'll be limited in terms of stopover points.
http://www.delta.com/content/dam/delta-www/pdfs/route-maps/us-route-map.pdf
Thanks again for the valuable information.
After reading this, I have a question.
1.By any chance is Delta all 1stop, no direct flights?
2.You said it's possible to stopover from NYC, but if you stopover in LA, will it be the same route back or will it be from Hawaii directly to NYC?
A. Do I need to call to make a reservation when requesting a stop over?
Thank you again today.
1. What region do you live in? Atlanta, LA, Minneapolis, etc. where Delta Hawaii has nonstop flights, of course, assuming there are seats available.
2. you can fly HNL-JFK nonstop if there are nonstop seats available on your return trip.
3. Stopovers can also be booked online.
One more question.
Why won't Business Class seats be ticketed with miles? I keep trying...
On the same day, I got Economy but not Prestige.
Is there a way?
Business seats are also available, but Delta rarely releases them. You'll have to look on Delta's site to find days when business/first class is available for only 40k each way.
Thanks for the great article,
Can I ask how a younger Lap Child could be ticketed in the way you mentioned?
It's hard to understand how much to deduct and how to ticket, but if you're an adult, you should be able to follow along.
Thank you
Since you're actually flying on a Delta flight, you'll have to follow their rules. A LAP CHILD under the age of 2 who doesn't occupy a seat doesn't need a separate ticket for domestic US flights. I think you just need to call Delta after you buy the ticket and let them know you have a LAP CHILD.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/special-travel-needs/children.html
The date I want is not yet available in DeltaSight, but I've tried it as a test...
It works on Delta, but I get an error on Korean Air.
I'm guessing it's because the routes get a little more complicated (two stops each way, with a red eye in the middle (and a different date)), but it's a different route to and from the return trip.
I'm going next January and it will take a few days for the search to be available, but if it is, I'll try to ticket over the phone with an agent.
Yeah. I think you're going to have to wait a little bit longer, and I'll have to experiment more, but it seems like rooting is a maximum of two stops per way, and I'm guessing the date change has something to do with it.
LAX-HNL route around November, I checked for availability on Delta one way to/from LAX and tried to book on Korean Air website, but I get an error... Why? ㅠㅠ
If the seat you see on Delta's site is on an Alaska Airlines flight, then you can't book it through Korean Air SkyTeam as described in this article. You'll need to call Korean Air and book it on an Alaska flight, which will cost 30,000 miles roundtrip, and you'll need to make sure the route is configured with Alaska flights only.
You said that only routes that cost 22,500 can be booked with Korean Air miles, so when booking business class, can I only book business class with a ticket that can be booked for 22,500 miles?
The table above says Ikon 25,000, Biz 40,000, but as of right now there are over 110,000 Delta One/First showing up with Lowest Fare 22,500. Is this because there is no business on this route and only First?
I think it's because Delta rarely releases them. I know that for business tickets, you can only get flights that come out to 40k miles each way, regardless of the economy mile deduction.
I saw this deal and jumped at the chance to collect 100,000 family miles, but I guess it's not possible with our combined miles.
Is this only available on my account?
So should I just move all the Sapphire Reserve 100k I'm getting this time?
Currently, about 50,000 people are in Daehanhangok.
Anyway, I'm exhausted after a few days of excitement.
I looked today and 22500 is nowhere to be found.
1. Yes. For Skyteam ticketing, you can't combine families, you have to have all the miles in one account. If you have 25,000 miles in increments, you can ticket them separately. For example, if you have 50,000 on your account and 50,000 on your spouse's account, you'll need to issue two tickets.
2. For a family of four, it's not easy. The number of miles seats changes several times a day, so it's worth checking when you have time.
It's our 10th anniversary this summer, and this is my 10th anniversary gift.
There weren't many seats available, so it wasn't the date I wanted, but I bought the ticket anyway.
This is the first time I've been excited in a long time, thanks for the info. I'll have to look into hotels with miles too, if you have any suggestions.
Great job! There are a lot of Hawaii-related reviews on the board that you might find helpful.
I've been saving up Korean Air miles for my next trip to Korea, but thanks to your great tips, I just bought 4 tickets to Hawaii for 100,000 miles. You explained it in such detail that it was easy to do. Thanks to you, my family is excited for a family vacation to Hawaii that we never thought of. Thank you so much.
Glad to hear there was room.
Oh, so I can fly from Seattle to Cancun, the U.S. Virgin Islands, or Puerto Rico for the same number of miles?
I've never been to Korea, so I thought I'd never convert URs to DanGong miles, but suddenly I'm tempted.
Yes. That's what I know.
hello. I found SariCard through MileMoa and this time, after my husband and I each opened a Sari card and filled it up with spending, I collected 250K Korean Air miles which I combined with URs I had previously collected from Safecard. I booked two roundtrip tickets in Prestige class for my in-laws from Korea for $90 tax only, which is $5500 per ticket if I converted it to money (it would have been $11,000 if I paid cash). I am so happy and grateful that my elderly parents-in-law can come to the US comfortably, and I just wanted to write to say thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for commenting. 🙂 🙂 â
How are you?
I always find this site helpful.
My parents are coming to visit me in the US,
I was wondering if there's a way to do a nice trip on miles from east (New York, New Jersey) to west (San Francisco in and Las Vegas out - I'm thinking San Francisco in and Las Vegas out - get off in San Francisco, see the sights, drive up Route 1 to LA, see the sights, then drive to Las Vegas, see the sights, then drive back), but it's not that expensive, so maybe it's worth it to just buy it with money instead of miles.
I'm an idiot and still don't understand the concept of openjs.
Any advice and recommendations from the masters would be appreciated.
Or better yet, suggestions for better travel destinations 🙂 .
Have a great day, everyone!
Will you be meeting your parents in the West? Or do you want to book a separate ticket for the Korea-New York roundtrip and take a separate trip out west in between?
I think it's better to come home once and then leave, so I'm just going to cut off Korea-New York separately 🙂 I don't want to get in trouble if I meet you in Hawaii, lol.
Or, if you come to the east and later go to Korea, I'm thinking of doing a western trip together and going from Hawaii, because it's a long flight time, but since I'm avoiding peak season, I think I'll have to do it in April or early May, but Delta now seems to have stopped direct flights to Honolulu from April. ㅠㅠ
If I don't show up for the Honolulu-New York leg, what's the harm?
hello.. I have about 110,000 Delta miles.
When booking Hawaii tickets on Korean Air, 25000 are Korean Air miles and the rest are Delta miles.
Will it work?
No. It's 25,000 miles roundtrip only if you use Korean Air miles. If you use Delta miles, you'll be subject to the deductions and redemption rules for Delta miles.
See this article. This is important to know.
https://www.milemoa.com/2015/10/10/how-to-ticket-intro/
Thanks for the great information every time.
I have a few questions I want to fly from JFK to LAX, SFO, Seattle, etc. for a few days of traveling out west and then go to Hawaii and back, what should I do? When I search for a one way ticket on deltaside, there is a ticket from LAX to Hawaii, but it's a one stop and go ticket. Should I search for JFK-LAX, LAX-HNL, HNL-JFK separately or should I search as a multicity?
Honestly, I'd rather travel through San Fran, Seattle, or Phoenix or Salt Lake City than LAX and then go to Hawaii and back, is that possible?
Also, can I use my Korean Air miles to book both tickets for me and my wife or do we have to do it separately on our own accounts? Currently I have a little over 40,000 Korean Air miles, 250,000 UR points and 40,000 SPG miles (50,000 Korean Air miles).
Thank you in advance.
1. Yes, you can. We'll explain more in a new post.
2. I understand that if you are registered as a family, you can ticket both of you from your original account.
I want to fly from Vancouver to Atlanta in March and I can't find it no matter how many times I search, what am I doing wrong? I have about 80,000 miles.
Did you pick a day with seat availability on the Delta site? Vancouver-Atlanta is 12,500 miles one way and you'll need to find an available date.
It's my 10th anniversary this year, and I got an unexpected gift.
I booked a round-trip flight for four to Hawaii with 100,000 Sari miles.
There were very few dates that worked because of the kids' school, but we were still able to pick a date within their vacation time.
I'm learning a lot here
Thank you as always
Now I just need to figure out a hotel and rental car for Hawaii ^^.
Congratulations, it's not easy to get a ticket for four. I'm sure you'll find these Hawaii travel guides helpful in choosing hotels and rentals.
https://www.milemoa.com/bbs/index.php?mid=board&category=647764
Is everyone having a good time transferring miles to Korean Air?
This time, I created a Korean Air account for my husband and completed the family registration.
I'm trying to transfer 75000 UR miles to my husband's account today.
They said the transfer didn't work... Can you tell me why? Isn't my MEMBER ID my Korean Air membership number? I don't know what's wrong?
You are correct that you cannot directly transfer from your UR account to your husband's Korean Air account. You used to be able to transfer directly to your spouse's account, but in November 2015, the rules changed, so now you need to combine your UR account with your husband's UR account, and then transfer from your UR account to his UR account.
If your husband doesn't have a Dorrance card, you'll need to register him as an authorized user on your Dorrance card before proceeding, see the article below for more information.
https://www.milemoa.com/2015/11/14/ur-transfer-change/
This may be due to the new Korean Air ID redesign.
Before, the character+number ID
They've all been replaced with 10-digit usernames.
Check it out on Korean Air
Do I have to have those miles on Korean Air to search?
When I do a search without going over UR miles, I get a message like error.
I'm not sure what the requirements are.
Now I'm on DeltaSights and the lowest miles are 45000, so does that mean the 22500 is no longer valid?
You'll need to find a date when the Mainland-Hawaii segment is available for 22,500 and build your itinerary around that date. We're saying this because 22,500 isn't available every day, so finding a seat isn't easy.
I just bought 4 x 25,000 mile tickets to Hawaii with my parents for 100,000 miles! This is the best deal ever, thanks for sharing! But since it's a domestic trip, I only need a driver's license and not a passport, right?
In this day and age, it's probably a good idea to bring your passport, too. Congratulations on your ticket.
This is something I've asked MileMoa about before, but it seems like Delta is now releasing a lot of mileage tickets. Previously, I was barely able to find Seattle Hawaii, Delta's new flagship city, even out west...
Canada toronto 거주중인데 여기도 되네요^^ 좋은정보 감사합니다~.
Is there any way to get the credit card you mentioned without a US social number? I have an ITIN but;;;
I know that Amex, Chase, etc. can be issued with an ITIN, but I'm not sure how it works if you live in Canada.
I'm searching for a flight between Atlanta and Hawaii.
As far as we can tell, 32,500 seems to be the lowest for May.
Does it have to be 22,500 or can I do 32,500 and spend more miles?
Since I'm ticketing with Korean Air miles, I can only get 22,500.
Mamo, we were going to buy a ticket from LA to HNL and back, but our plans changed.
If I only need to fly one way from LA to HNL, can I just buy a 22.500 mile ticket on Delta's site?
If I have 116,000 miles in Chase right now, do I need to transfer them to Korean Air, then Korean Air to Delta, and then Delta to Chase?
Or can I move from UR directly to delta?
(This is so hard!)
1. you can't transfer directly from UR to Delta, and you can't transfer from Korean Air to Delta. Once miles are credited to an airline, in most cases, that's it.
2. if that doesn't work, I'd try to get a one-way ticket for 25,000 Korean Air miles, and if you have other miles, you might want to look into something like Flying Blue, where you can get a one-way ticket.
Mamo
I'm trying to book 3 one-way 5.20 OGG-SFO tickets for 12500 miles on BA for 12500 miles over MA.
Search wear boards by
https://www.milemoa.com/bbs/board/3059807
Check the Alaska Airlines website to see what seats are available for redemption using miles, then click
I called BA and they said they don't see it.
Is there any other way to do this?
OGG-OAK.
I wrote it wrong
BA said they don't see 20 days but Alaska has 19 days, so I ticketed it.
(Why is it that Alaska's website says there's an Earth Day 20 magnet, but I don't see any agents...)
Thanks for the great information as always.
Glad to hear you got your ticket anyway.
You may want to check the AA site to see if you can see Alaska seats. Sometimes the number of seats you see on the Alaska site assumes you're paying extra miles.
I'm enjoying the information. Thank you.
I searched and it says 4.11 ORD-0GG - Delta has 4 seats, but it says 22500
I called Korean Air and they said they don't have it.
Why is that? My Delta seatcheck is not correct, black. Bummer.
I did a search on 4/11 and the itinerary that has seats available for 22,500 is ORD-SLC-PDX-OGG, and the last PDX-OGG is an Alaska Airlines flight, so that's why you don't see it on Korean Air's site. If you look in the text, I explained that you need to check Delta only when searching on Delta's site, so you might want to double check that.
Ah I thought I must have kept checking and looking up delta only but apparently not, thank you so much!
You might also want to pay attention to how many stops you make.
I'm here to ask for advice. I was planning to go to Hawaii this year and was excited to see your post. I was also excited to make a trial reservation, but since I'm not going alone, the confirmed schedule came out. At this time, there are no seats for 25000. There are seats when I go, but there is no schedule for me to come. T.T So the 25000 mile honey deal is not available this time. My question is...
So we have to buy tickets in different ways, and there are two of us... If we use up all the URs from New York to Hawaii, we can get Hawaiian roundtrip for about 150000, but is this a good deal? My husband wants to leave the URs alone (we'll get the Biz later when we go to Korea..) and buy them on the card, which would come out to about $1900. I'm in shock because I was expecting the two of us to go for 50000 miles...
I decided to buy the sequel. I decided to leave the miles behind in anticipation of Korean Beads.
Now that I've decided, I'm happy to travel again.
^^
We think you made a smart decision!
Thank you so much. Thanks to your post, I booked a roundtrip flight to Hawaii for my family with 100,000 Korean Air points ^^;
Oh. A family of four is not easy, congratulations, where do you start?
I'm currently looking at ATL to Hawaii from 5/15-24 and delta is showing 77,500.
Is it really the last train out?
Once you put the layovers in, is the 25,000 miles you mentioned still possible?
I know the mileage seat availability changes daily, so maybe more seats will open up closer to the departure date, but as of today's date, it looks like only Saturday 5/13 is available through LA. So I guess the only way to find out is to keep checking the Delta site ;);
Does anyone know what the baggage charge is for a ticket from LA to Hawaii?
If anyone knows if up to 2 are free, please let me know.
If you're flying Delta, you're subject to Delta's rules, and Delta requires you to pay a fee for the first bag, see this link.
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/baggage/before-your-trip/checked.html?icid=Policy_Ck_Baggage_Ongoing#BaggageFees
I see... Thank you.
Hi...I'm a newbie.
I'm going to Hawaii for a month-long business trip in early July and my son (13) wants to go with me. My company bought me a ticket through AA, and now I need to buy a ticket for him, but according to AA mileage, it's at least 100,000 miles roundtrip...almost a thousand dollars in cash. I'm not in a very tight financial situation right now, and I'd like to use some of the miles I've accumulated, but how can I buy the least expensive AA ticket?
Your origin is Kansas City and your destination is Honolulu. You have about 240,000 UR, 55,000 Delta, and 68,000 SPG miles.
Question 1. What is the cheapest way to buy AA tickets? Should I just shell out the 100,000 miles?
2. basic question, but I would like to know how I can purchase my son's ticket with my miles.
(Transfer the miles I have to AA, search for miles on AA and buy them in my "son's" name -> I wonder if this is possible).
Thank you. Kubuk
1. if you have UR, Delta, and SPG miles, SPG is the only one that can be converted to AA.
2. If you transfer SPG to AA, you will be able to book a ticket in your son's name from your original account.
3. but if you redeem 100,000 miles for a $1,000 ticket, I'd say that's not a good deal for miles.
4. you mentioned only UR 24, do you have a Sari card? If you have a Sari card, you can redeem UR points for tickets that are worth 1.5 cents, so a $1,000 ticket would be worth 60-70,000 UR points. If you don't have a Sari card, but rather a Sharp card, it's a 1.25 cent rate, which isn't a great value.
Thank you for your response, @milemoa.
4. i have both sari card and sharp card now. I didn't realize I could buy UR points for 1.5 cents with the sari, but are you saying I can buy AA points with the sari? That would be great, thank you.
You're wrong, you're not buying UR points for 1.5 cents with a sari, and it's not that you can buy AA points with a sari.
What I'm talking about is the
1) Having the Sapphire card means that you can redeem UR points for travel, like airline tickets, at a value of 1.5 cents on the Chase site for travel bookings.
2) This means that you can buy a $1,000 AA ticket on Chase's travel site by paying with UR points.
Just wondering. I have a GOLD MASTERCARD with an annual fee of $995.00.
http://www.luxurycard.com/goldcard
How does this benefit?????
I'm not even going to mention it because it's a card with no benefits ;);
Thank you for this very valuable information.
But are Korean Air miles and Skyteam miles different?
If I convert UR to SPYPASS miles, will it be converted to Korean Air miles? Or will it be converted to Skyteam miles?
I'm a newbie so I don't know...thanks in advance for your answer.
1. yes. It's different, Skyteam is an alliance of airlines, and each of them has their own mileage program.
2. URs are transferred to Korean Air miles, there is no such thing as consolidated Skyteam miles.
In early August, I booked a Hawaiian Airlines flight for a family of three using Korean Air miles.
I'm thinking about opening a card for a stay in Hawaii and was thinking about the Hilton Surpass or the Pace Hyatt. Do you have any recommendations on which one would be best?
(For reference, I currently have Freedom, SPG, and Sari cards and have 160,000 UR points).
If you're choosing between the two cards, you're probably better off with Hyatt, which doesn't have a status limit.
Okay, thank you~.
I was wondering if I can only ticket family members in addition to myself?
I transferred my miles from SPG to Korean Air without incident.
I'm trying to make a reservation based on your post, but my family (wife and child 1) are not registered yet, and I can only see my name, so I'm stuck for a while. I know they can register online, but I'm wondering if I have to be included in the ticketing, or if I can't be included and only my family can be ticketed. I'm going to do the ticketing for my company separately, and I'd like to do the ticketing for my family separately with miles, but I'm not sure if that's possible at this point, do you know? I hope not...
I tried to register my family online, but it said it takes about 1 day to confirm.
Also, it seems that only family members other than myself can ticket... Advisor Answer...
I have a record of people ticketing their parents in Korea.
https://www.milemoa.com/bbs/board/2307386
https://www.milemoa.com/bbs/board/2308355
Yes. If you're registered as a family, you can transfer and issue tickets to your family members.
This is such a stupid question... I'm a newbie
That's a screenshot of the mileage comparison.
The lowest fare is tens of thousands of miles one day and a few miles the next.
Where can I find this on the site?
As mentioned in the body of the text, this is a search from the Delta site, delta.com.
Thanks to the forums, I took ATL-LAX (4/5) -HNL (4/5) last month. I booked it for exactly 50,000 points and taxes for two Korean Air passengers from Chase for about $30? I took full advantage of the Priority pass from Reserve, but I didn't get the global entry because I had a late interview date. I was so tempted to use points for a hotel in Hawaii for 50k that I decided to go for it. I'm planning another similar route as soon as I arrive. Do you have any other recommendations? I'd prefer to fly out of IAD, but SEA, SFO, LAX, SAD would be great... I'm looking into other islands as well. Thanks as always.
Due to the limit on the number of segments, it seems impractical to go through multiple places or go far back.
Hello Mamo~ This is a bit old, so I don't know if you'll check the comments, but I have a question.
I know you said in the last question that we would have to be registered as a family to buy two tickets for me and my wife with my Korean Air miles, but if we are not, can we transfer my Chase UR points to her Korean Air account and then buy tickets for each of us? Or does the Chase account have to have the same name as the Korean Air account I transfer to?
To transfer directly from your Chase account to your spouse's Korean Air account, you'll need to have a Chase AU card in your spouse's name. We think it would be easier to register as a Korean Air family.
For Chase transfers, see this article.
https://www.milemoa.com/2015/11/14/ur-transfer-change/
Hi Mamo, I've been lurking since signing up and this is my first time posting a question.
I've been accumulating points and not redeeming them properly, but when I saw your post about getting to Hawaii for cheap points, I thought it was a great deal.
Family of 4 EWR->HNL (10/26/2017) / OGG->EWR (11/2/2017)
When I search for Delta only on Delta like this, I get the 1st stop of the 7:15am flight on 10/26 for 22,500 miles (all Delta), but when I search the way you suggested on Korean Air, I only get the 2 stops and 25+ hour flight.
It's weird, so I'm asking if I'm missing something because I've tried it on other days, and I've tried specifying the airport as JFK, but the routes I see on Delta are different than the ones I see on Korean Air's site. I don't think it's because of the Alaska Airlines thing you mentioned above. I call Korean Air and the agent says there are no flights available that day to book with points.
Thank you as always.
When I do a search on the Delta site, it seems that for October 26, there are one-stop seats available for 22,500 miles as you said, but for November 2, the only seats available for 22,500 miles are two-stop. Perhaps this is why the search doesn't work on Korean Air's site?
As you said, Delta has one-stop seats available on October 26, but when I search on Korean Air's site, I only get basic 2-stop (25 hours with wait time) seats. I've tried other dates, but what I get on Delta's site is different than what I get on Korean Air's site. Maybe I'm missing something.
I'll try to do a search later today or tomorrow.
Thank you!!!!
Thanks for the great information, but if I follow your example, I can get to New York but not Washington DC airport? It's an airport that both Delta and Korean Air fly into, but I keep getting an error. I've been asking for a while.
It is possible, but I don't think it will work if there are no seats available.
Hi~~ I stumbled upon your website by accident, and I've been getting good information from it, thank you so much!
I've been reading your post eagerly to try Hawaii ticketing this time, but I've been searching on Delta with Deltaonly and then on Korean Air with 22500 miles, but it's not working.
Do I need to have that many miles on Korean Air to be able to search? Or is the search only possible because the miles are not on Korean Air?
Sorry, I didn't write the last sentence right, it should be "Search is possible without miles".
I haven't transferred my points from Chase yet, so I'm wondering if I don't have enough miles to search... or something.
1. my account has many miles, so I can't see if it's searchable, but I'm sure it's searchable.
2. please provide the dates and itinerary you are looking for and I will do a search for you.
I just saw your answer, thank you so much.
The dates I searched for are 01/06/18 PHL (philadelphia) sat - 01/12/18 Fri HNL (honolulu).
1. I did a search and it looks like the seats are available on Delta for 45,000 miles roundtrip, but I can't find them on Korean Air's site.
2. I've heard of people successfully ticketing over the phone, so I'd recommend calling or chatting online first to confirm mileage seat availability.
I was looking for tickets for a trip to Hawaii and there were many 25,000 mile seats until a day ago, but the miles for those dates changed to 40,000 or more on Delta's website in one day. So I put in the dates I had previously selected on Korean Air's website, and it said that there were seats available, and I could even buy a ticket with 100,000 miles. But you said in the description above that Korean Air won't ticket anything with high miles, so I'm asking again. I'm a beginner... In this case, even if I can buy a ticket with 100,000 miles for the itinerary I saw before, will it be a problem when I fly Delta later? Or is it possible that Delta has changed the miles, but Korean Air hasn't transferred them yet, so it shows that there are seats available, and I can ticket them now? If this is the case, I'd like to buy them sooner rather than later. Please advise. Thanks.
I don't think this will be an issue in the future, as long as it can be ticketed, but it's a curious phenomenon nonetheless.
I'm searching for a flight from Atlanta to Hawaii and the dates are 4/26/18-5/6/18 next year and it shows up on Delta but Korean Air keeps saying it's not available. Any idea why? I haven't transferred the miles yet, is this a problem? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
The Korean Air site doesn't seem to be searching very well these days, so why not give them a call, as some people have had success by calling.
MileMoa, I've been meaning to try this since I saw this post and finally had an excuse to go to Hawaii, so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm pretty sure I saw a 1 stop itinerary for 22500 miles to Honolulu with plenty of seats on Delta's page, but when I searched for the same itinerary on Korean Air's website, it said there were no results. I tried to do the same with L.A. Honolulu but it didn't work. Did Delta notice this honey route and block it?? ㅠㅠ I searched for January 4, 2018 departure and January 13, 2018 return. Can you please confirm?
I just called Korean Air and they said that Delta award tickets are searching for me over the phone. Phew - anyone else who can't find them on Korean Air's website, give them a call.
But, Mama, between me and my husband, we've been working hard on your post and we've come to the conclusion that we're going to have to do something about it.
UR 50,000 miles each (100,000 miles total)
38000 SPG miles combined
I have 60,000 Delta miles.
I'm worried that I won't have enough UR and SPG miles to use for the hotel because I can't use Delta miles to get a 50,000 mile roundtrip ticket for 2 people, so I'm going to spend more than UR 50,000 (5 nights planned).The Maui hotel, which I'm not sure if the miles have been de-valued a lot or not, is only 2 nights with UR 50,000. Still, is it better to use UR to increase the value of the miles, or to buy one ticket with Delta miles? (Delta miles cost 45000 miles) I think it's better not to use Delta miles this time, but to collect them and use them when I go to Korea. The world of miles is difficult the deeper I dig, so I'm looking for advice from a beginner who has been watching MileMoA and is about to break his head trying to do it myself. Thank you for always providing good information.
1. Oh, thank goodness, the homepage must have some errors.
2. I think ticketing with Korean Air will give you more flexibility for possible date changes, etc. and Delta will have the opportunity to redeem the ticket at a later date.
Thank you~ I've been wanting to try a roundtrip to Hawaii on Korean Air for 25k ever since I learned about Mamo, and now I'm going to do it. Thanks for sharing such great information!
As per your update, Korean Air's website often says there are no tickets available...
In my case, I booked LAX-SEA, SEA-HNL, OGG-LAX using the "chat service" at the bottom of the Korean Air website (canceling the original booking and booking a new route). I checked the available dates and times on the Delta homepage and asked the agent to confirm and book it right away. They were very nice and accommodating. Also, it looks like canceling/changing mileage tickets is only free until the end of July. From August, there seems to be a fee. Please note^^.
Thank you for your review. I'm glad to hear you were able to resolve it over chat.
Is it still possible to do a roundtrip for 25K? I'm looking at dates from SFO to Oahu or Maui next year around Feb,March,April.
I can only find it about 40,000 miles away.
When you say you can only find 40,000 miles, are you saying that every one-way mileage ticket you can find on Delta's site is 40,000 miles? It's Delta's responsibility to release the seats, not Korean Air's, and if Delta doesn't release the seats, Korean Air can't do anything about it ;);
I tried to use miles for Hawaii for the first time, but Delta says that the sectors that come up in the search are not bookable on Korean Air. For example, I tried to fly from Chicago to Honolulu with a stopover in L.A. or Seattle, and then from Honolulu to Chicago, but there are also flights with a layover of 4 hours or less in the area of the layover between Honolulu and Chicago that are not bookable. When I asked in chat, I was told that there are some airplanes that depart in 4 hours and some that don't. I asked several times, but the answer was the same. Of course, it's the beginning of the year and the seats are not available, so I'm very curious about it from a beginner's point of view.^^
I see, I'll have to double-check that.
After trying to book via chat and phone with the route and dates I wanted, I finally gave up on the dates and route I wanted and booked the dates that were available. I guess I'll just have to take my mind off booking miles, but I'm excited to go to Hawaii for 100,000 miles for 4 people in mid-January, so thanks for the info you posted here. Now I just need to figure out the hotel. ^^
Answer. Seems like the only way to ticket a family of four to a popular destination like Hawaii is to time it to the dates when mileage seats are available, so to speak ;);
I was wondering, is this only for Ohau?
I tried Delta to Maui and can't even find 22500.... How is it economical to get to Maui? I'm curious.
I know Maui is possible if there is room.
You've been lurking, and now you're posting for the first time.
Thanks to you, I made my flight to Hawaii!!!!!!!!
Thank you. 🙂 🙂 â
Oh. It's not easy, but you made it. Congratulations.
I searched for the date, barely found it, and it said I didn't have enough miles, so I chatted with them (I was going to use all of my husband's kids miles), and it said that if I didn't have enough, I could only use the miles of one person on the family or my own miles.
Is this the way it's supposed to be?
Does that make 100,000 combined family miles meaningless?
Do I need to transfer miles from Sarikad to Korean Air to do the Hawaii 100,000 miles?
I didn't read it right, I need to have 100,000 miles to be able to ticket 4 tickets with my own miles.
Yes. If they're miles apart, I think you'd have to ticket them separately.
A family of four is planning a trip to Hawaii from Washington, USA.
I have 85,000 miles on Korean Air right now.
I have about 30,000 SPG points.
In this case, can I transfer SPG points to Korean Air for a round-trip ticket for 4 people?
Thank you for your feedback, Mamo.
Yes. In theory, yes, but we recommend that you check seat availability first before proceeding with the points conversion.
From New York to Hawaii, it's too far for kids.
I tried searching for the Bahamas in the same way.
However, the lowest fare is 10,500 each way, which is 84,000 miles for a family of 4 using simple math.
The final Korean Air fare comes out to 140,000 miles + $600 (fees, etc.).
I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong or if it's different in Hawaii.
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!!!
1. the Bahamas is classified as "Central America" in Korean Air's regional division, and a ticket from "North America" to "Central America", which includes the US, is 35,000 miles roundtrip economy. So 140,000 miles for 4 people is a valid mileage deduction.
2. In this case, you're probably better off redeeming Delta miles rather than Korean Air miles.
Mamo, I'm searching for delta tickets from SJC to Hawaii next year. I see a lot of 19,000 mile itineraries one way, but not 22500. Is it possible that itineraries with 19,000 delta miles are not eligible for Korean Air miles? I can't find it on Korean Air.
You're seeing a minimum of 19,000 miles? This must be a system glitch, as the minimum mileage deduction is known to be 22,500 miles.
Yes even now SJC HNL early April dela only one way lowest fare is 19,000 miles.... But I can't find it on Korean Air's site. I think I'll give them a call 🙂 .
I'm looking at Delta right now and the lowest miles one way is 34500 one way for all dates for US Midwest-Hawaii and they're all above that, so now I'm stuck or am I doing something wrong?
It's from Chicago (ord) and the lowest price is 34k. I think it's like that all year round.
Hmmm. That's weird, because when I search for LA-Honolulu, 25,000 is the lowest I can find. I'll have to do some more digging to see if they've temporarily raised the mileage redemption (Delta doesn't have a mileage chart) or if it's just a blockage. Thanks for letting me know.
Hello~ I opened the Sari card after learning about Milemoa and now have about 130,000 points. My husband has similar points.
My goal was a trip to Hawaii for a family of four from New York City, and while there's no right or wrong time to do it, I'm now out of points.
As you mentioned, I started searching from Delta, but I can't find 25,000 points between now and August next year..lol
Could this be due to Delta not unseating?
We are looking at the end of August if possible.... If the 25,000 point seats don't come up at all, I'm looking at
What's the smartest way to spend points?
I realized that with my current 130,000 points, I could get a round trip for two if I bought directly from UR travel.
What would you do if you were Milemoa?
The downside is that we have a fixed date for our promotions, so the date is not flexible...
Any answers would be appreciated... Thanks!
1. Delta doesn't seem to be releasing seats.
2. if Delta isn't releasing seats, I don't think it's a good idea to spend UR like cash. If you can afford to get a card, I'd consider getting an Alaska partner card and using it for companion ticketing. You pay for one ticket and get another, and normally this would cost you $99 + tax for a companion ticket, but I understand that if you apply for the card by the end of 2017, you can get the companion ticket for $99 and no tax. If you do this, you'll get the sign up bonus as a sign up bonus, and I think you could get a round trip for a family of 4 for around $1,000-1,200. That's one possibility.
Thank you for your efforts.
I've been saving up my miles for a trip to Hawaii when I get the chance, but now I'm stumped when it comes to ticketing... It's a little complicated because it's my first time. I've been searching for Delta, but I can't find any tickets.
How to get there?
I have 320k on my Chase UR
I would like to add a family of 5, or even 3 more if possible.
I am scheduled to leave the second week of January.
1.New York - Honolulu - Las Vegas - New York (5 people or as many as possible)
2. Korea - Honolulu - Las Vegas - Korea (2 people)
What to do and how to do it
1. my Delta Mileage seats have been drying up in the last 2-3 weeks, I'll have to find out if this is just a temporary thing or if there is a big change.
2. traveling to Hawaii with a family of 5 is not easy to begin with, especially when you have to go through a non-Delta hub like Las Vegas along the way. The limited time frame of the second week of January is also a constraint.
3. If your itinerary and dates are fixed like that, I personally think you should consider paying for a ticket. UR 320,000 is 320,000 for Korean Air, which can be used for future trips to Korea.
Thanks for the answer, MileMom! Is the companion ticket for the Alaska card annualized or one-time? If it's annualized, you said you'll have to pay the companion ticket tax after this year, but if I open the card within the current year, will the no-tax still apply from then on?
And if I spend $30,000 on a signing bonus, can I still get a companion ticket?
I checked New York to Hawaii and there are no non-stops.
Do you happen to know which islands are cheap in which cities?
Sorry for the many questions.....^ㅡ;;;; and thank you!!!
1. I know it comes out every year. I know you always pay taxes and you have to pay the $99 as part of the fare, but I don't have this $99 this year. See the terms and conditions at this link for more information. If your card is issued at a lower tier, you will not get this companion ticket benefit (Platinum Plus® Visa® cardholders do not qualify for this benefit).
https://www.applyonlinenow.com/USCCapp/Ctl/entry?sc=VACTJ6&GV5=H|861|homepage#b
2. I understand that the sign-up bonus and ticket purchase are not related. I know that spending $1000 for 3 months gets you a companion ticket, which comes into your online account in the form of a discount code and is valid for 12 months from the date of issue. The terms and conditions say it's round trip only, but from what I've read on the FT, it looks like it's one-way as well - AYOR, of course.
3. for Hawaii from NYC, I don't think Alaska is non-stop, and you'd have to change in LA or Seattle anyway, so I think you'd have to search for multiple islands for your dates.
Again, I'd recommend reading the terms and conditions carefully before applying for the card, as I may be misunderstanding them.
SJC-HNL April 2018 Jun Soon Going and coming flight search criteria, Delta site shows 22,500, so I tried to search on Korean Air site, but it doesn't work, I tried to chat, but they say there are no seats. Something seems to have changed. I need to get a ticket soon...ㅜㅜ
That's weird, maybe you should put a warning in the body of the post. lol
Thank you so much for your answer, Milimoa! I'll take your suggestion into consideration.
I think this is now the stuff of legend. Never under 25k, right, Milemoan?
I searched for SEA-OGG flights in May next year on Korean Air's website and couldn't find anything, but when I asked in chat, they booked it right away! If you can't find anything on the site, you should definitely try chatting with them!
Do you see 22500 votes for next May? I keep seeing 25000 votes and it's frustrating.
I'm wondering if the 22500 deduction has been raised to 25000?
Mine came up as 25000 but when I asked in chat they said it was available so I booked it lol
I think the default was raised from 22500 to 25000 as you said.
That's great news, let's dig a little deeper.
Oh no, it's not gone, thank goodness.
Thanks for the great info!!! But does it cost 25k per person like before?
It cost 25k for four people.
Did you book with Korean Air? Or did you book with Delta?
I booked through Korean Air's chat service.
Even though you're flying Delta, you're using Korean Air miles, so you'll need to book on Korean Air.
I'm looking to fly from the Eastern Washington DC area in November (IAD, BWI, DCA) and all of them have 35000 Delta one-way miles as the lowest price. This is true even when I look at all other dates. Could it be that this segment is not even in the 22500 or 25000 segment? That's why I can't find any tickets when I go to Korean Air and search for them, even if they are available at 35000 on the Delta site. ㅠ.ㅠ
Based on recent reports, it seems that there is a broken link between the seat information on Delta's site and the seats that Korean Air has access to. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not, but for dates that require more miles than 22,500 miles, Korean Air may still be able to ticket on Delta's site, so you may want to keep looking or get help from a Korean Air agent.
I'm looking for something similar. I think JFK-OGG 27,000 is the lowest I've seen. I'll have to wait until next year to see if I can find more.
My family (5 people) just got tickets for LAX-HNL for 5 people from August 15-21, totaling 125000 miles. I don't see the tickets on Delta's website, but I happened to search for them on Korean Air's web and ticketed them. I didn't see any tickets until yesterday, and then all of a sudden today there are tons of tickets available. All of the dates I searched for had 10+ tickets released. See also.
Great!
Mamo~.
Sari UR Points 260,000 Should I transfer them to Korean Air points or use them through UR Travel to get the best value?
I want to go on a honeymoon with Business Class with points, but it's not easy.
Do you have any recommendations other than Hawaii?
Thank you!
1. You'll need to redeem URs for air miles to fly business or higher. The UR mall has a fixed value (1.25 cents or 1.5 cents with sarees), so it's not easy to meet the threshold for business ticketing.
The only exception to this is the US mainland-Hawaii sector, which is not easy to redeem for miles unless you pay cash for a business or higher ticket, in which case UR Travel cash tickets are an option, but as mentioned in #1, they don't pay off.
3. if you don't have to use up your URs this time, I would transfer them to Korean Air and try to get a business ticket to and from Korea in the future.
Thank you for your quick response~!
Milemoa, is 22500 Delta One Way still available? I'm looking on Delta's site for IAD to HON or NYU to HNL until next March, but I don't see 22500 one way and 30000 is the smallest mileage. Is it because the tickets are not released until next March? Or maybe the rules or point deduction rate has changed?
You can try it yourself on Korean Air's site or give them a call. I've seen a few cases where people were able to get tickets on dates that required a higher mileage redemption than 22,500 miles.
Thank you MileMoa. The first date I thought of seemed to work online, but I got an error on the payment page, so I chatted with Korean Air and they said it was because there were no seats available, so I tried another date, and if there were seats available, it went through without an error message and I was able to get 25000 miles roundtrip from Hawaii to the US. Thank you ^^^^^
Great job, thanks for the update.
Hello, I'm 17 years old, going back to Korea in September after 6 months in Vancouver, and I'm going back alone.
My family Korean Air miles are about to expire and I want to combine them.
But Korean Air doesn't have award tickets, and when I looked it up, it said that SkyTeam can be used on other airlines.
I want to redeem an award on Delta, but I can only buy a round-trip ticket?
On Korean Air, I can only find round-trip or multi-city tickets.
I'm not very good at this, so it's very difficult and painful.. lol
I want to go to Korea one way, I want to fly Delta, and I really want to use my SkyTeam miles, is there a way?
Please reply. Thank you!
1. SkyTeam ticketing is round-trip only.
2. Korean Air has a waitlist system, and if you put a waitlist, it often gets released, so it's better to put a few dates on hold when you can.
Hello, I have a quick question.
I am currently 790 miles short of MQM and $1700 short of MQD... I've been working really hard this year, and I'm in this state with a few weeks left in 2018, but my question is, if I don't hit MQM25000, will I start from zero again next year? And do I have to meet both MQM and MQD at the same time... If I don't meet either, will I start from zero? In this case, should I take a trip at the end of the year? I don't know... I'll make the decision, but I'd appreciate some advice.
Delta has a rollover feature, but the terms state that you must achieve at least Silver before any MQMs above that will roll over to the following year. (Members who do not achieve any Tier of earned Medallion Status through the published requirements are ineligible for rollover MQMs.) If you fall short of Silver, as is currently the case, you start over at zero.
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/skymiles/program-resources/program-rules.html
I know this is a very beginner question, but I'm asking.
My family is traveling to Hawaii in February using the above method.
I can't find our ticket on the Delta homepage, so I'm thinking
If I go to a Delta counter or automated check-in machine on the same day, will I get a ticket?
This is a very newbie question, but I've never traveled this way before.
Thank you
Contact Korean Air and ask for your Delta reservation number PNR, which you can use to view your booking history on Delta's site.
Thank you, I have one more question.
I found the reservation on Delta's site, but it has an unusual name.
For example, AbcMR Im this way: wife is MS son is MSTR daughter is MISS
Last time I contacted Korean Air because my children's first and middle names are attached, and they said that their system doesn't have space, so it doesn't matter as long as the spelling is the same.
Is that what happens when you buy Delta on Korean Air?
Will he be okay at the airport later?
Thank you so much
Yes. I understand it's there to reflect gender, and as long as you spell it right, you're good to go.
I have a Delta Platinum card, can I check my bag and have the ticket stubbed to Delta for free?
Or do I have to pay for the disconnection from Korean Air?
When going from Korean Air, there is a change from 10 minutes delay to 20 minutes early departure when coming, but the phone also calls directly to say that I did not check in the homepage and hang up with Delta, so it is a little different from when I was traveling.
Thank you
If I remember correctly, UA requires you to ticket with a UA card to get the free bag, but Delta only requires your Delta membership number on the reservation. I'd suggest bringing the physical card to Delta check-in and ask them to put the number on it and subtract the bag amount.
Include your SkyMiles number in your reservation by providing it when booking your flight, adding it when checking in, or looking up your itinerary and clicking "Add Frequent Flyer #."
Hi, I'm writing to ask a question.
When I search on google flights, it shows CLT->MSP->HNL from Delta, so when I search CLT to HNL on Korean Air, it only shows 2 stops like CLT->ATL->LAX->HNL, not 1 stop at MSP. Is it possible to book CLT->MSP->HNL on Korean Air in this case? I would appreciate your answer.
The tickets you find on Google are cash tickets, so they're bound to have better seat availability than mileage tickets. The only way to redeem Korean Air miles is to search consistently on the Korean Air site.
Hi...I searched hard for Honolulu from Boston to Honolulu at the end of December this year...and when I try to pay 11.xx per person at the last minute,...it bounces back that the seats are gone or changed...
What to do?
.... Why not give Korean Air a call or chat with us?
Thank you so much. I called and they said it was because there were no seats available, so I changed the date...12/30 Boston - Honolulu (Delta required 32,000 miles) 1/9 KOA(Big Island) - Boston (Delta required 22,000 miles) 5 tickets for $55.xx and was successful. ^^ I ticketed a week ago... but when I checked now, it looks like all the seats are gone...^^
Congratulations on your ticket, it's definitely not a hard and fast Delta mileage deduction like it used to be.
Korean Air is not searching for domestic US reservations, even though it worked when I tested it before. When I tested it before, I put Hawaii and the US mainland. It says that the origin and destination are not in the same region. The mileage chart also doesn't show US-US.
1. What chart are you looking at? As you can see in the link below, the North America-North America section of the Skyteam chart is still alive and well.
https://www.koreanair.com/korea/ko/skypass/flight-award/award-ticket/skyteam-bonus-north-america.html
2. did you mean to use the Korean Air award ticket search and not the Skyteam search? I just did a search for 9/24 LAX departure and 9/30 HNL return and the seats came up for 25,000 miles. Check out the image below.
https://www.milemoa.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/KE-Delta.jpg
I came across this article while trying to get rid of my Korean Air miles because of the Korean Air changes.
I can't find any direct flights from JFK-HNL until the end of 2020. Is it just the difficulty level? I'm trying to find 1 stop, but I don't see any Korean Air tickets for 22,500 miles. Am I searching wrong? https://imgur.com/a/Ue0aL62
Answer. Getting out of Hawaii, especially from the east coast, is difficult. Based on the information on the board, it looks like the itineraries that come up when I search on Virgin Atlantic's site can be booked with Korean Air miles.
hello. MileMoan. I did what you said, but when I search on the Korean Air site, it keeps telling me that there are 22,500 seats available from LA to Hawaii on April 6 and from Hawaii to LA on April 9, but there are none on the Delta site. What's going on? ㅠ.ㅠ
This article is a couple years old, so it's possible things have changed in the meantime. From what I've seen on the message boards, Delta flights on the Virgin Atlantic site can be booked with Korean Air miles, so you might want to do a search on the Virgin Atlantic site.
I'm flying from Philly to Honolulu above to go once I'm vaccinated this time, but there's no direct flight, so I'm arriving in Minneapolis after 9pm, and then I have an 11am flight to Honolulu the next morning. Is it possible to stay at a hotel in Minneapolis and sleep in, right? Isn't it an airplane that can never leave the airport? I really don't want to stay at the airport because I have children. When I return, I don't have to worry about this because it's a direct flight, but it's a problem when I go. If anyone knows, please answer.
Yes. It's a domestic flight and you can definitely leave the airport. In this case, I think you'll probably have to pick up your luggage and resend it the next day.
Thank you for your answer.